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Things I forgot because the learning was more in the first half of the year. Brain is not braining well and these are things I have many data points on but struggle to put into words which are understandable to those who aren't familiar. IYKYK I guess and I'm so appreciative of these qualities and glad I found my way in.

When I first started watching Thai BL, I was over-attributing what I liked to it being BL and not appreciating how much of that warmth and caring was just Thai.

Thai comedy is its own thing - unpretentious, unabashed, unashamed, delightfully goofy, free-spirited and full of acceptance - and it really works for me.

Layers of meaning. The countless ways Thais have of embedding trauma and grief narratives in humour and lightness and the way it feels as those layers begin to be revealed. Movies have patterns in how they do this but every series I've seen with it has approached it differently.

Cradling pain. How gently and skillfully they handle big emotions. The time they will give to this. If it seems like there isn't much going on, look there. Or even if there is.

The respect much of the 2016-2020ish youth-orientated programming has for its viewers' intelligence. This isn't unique to Thailand, youth-programming is often higher quality than comparable mainstream fare, but the combination of other Thai qualities works especially well with this.

These are the things I most adore about the way Thais tell their stories.
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I *really* like how slow and unhurried Thai movies can be.

The best way for me to watch a lakorn is one episode whenever until it grabs me, then binge to get carried along on its energy. Maximum three episodes a day though. Unless the political enshittification of the world is having an especially bad spasm and somewhere to hide for a few days is useful.

Don't be surprised if a seemingly weak woman in a lakorn turns out to be skilled in martial arts or shooting a gun.

The number of episodes it takes for a lakorn to grab me is not necessarily an indication of how much I will enjoy it by the end. Episode 7 is the current record.

If it feels like a Thai series hasn't completed certain plot lines with the correct sort of detail to satisfy western audiences, that just means the real story was elsewhere.

The real story will probably be centered in the emotions. Get those right, give them some grounding and the rest can have as much nonsense as they want to give it and it will still work.

I really like GMM singing to camera or into the distance OSTs circa 2016-17.

My mental health is significantly better when my viewing is majority Thai and minimally everything else, with some exception for Japanese films. This probably has to do with cortisol and how different cultures pace or mitigate tension and stress in their stories.

This is not what the majority of western viewers want or expect, so my only successful Thai recommendations have been ones which went up to or crossed my limits. Except for Moonlight Chicken. This is very isolating and complicates or excludes me from most conversations.

If there's a ghost it may be vengeful but it may mean grief is a significant theme somewhere along the way. This does not mean it will be a sad story.

Or maybe they just wanted to include ghosts. Thais will never meet a genre they can't put a ghost in.

MDL's "horror" genre tag is uselessly broad to suit Thai media.

Series with trauma and grief narratives don't have to be dark and traumatic.

Did I mention how much I like the refuse to be rushed pacing of Thai movies? They will get wherever it is they're going when they get there and it will be the right place for the story and the right time.
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Disclaimer: I am by no means anything remotely like an expert. I'm just an old woman living in Scotland who loves particular veins of Thai comedy and wants to understand it all better. This isn't even to a rough draft stage, just an on-going attempt to collect and organise thoughts. They will change, this will be updated. Aside from this first time, it won't bother your reading lists. But likewise if anyone here is interested, you'll have to make a point of returning to the post.

I'm rewatching some of my favourites and it will be useful to be able to incorporate them while they are still fresh in my mind. Series and movies which will likely make it in here eventually include: May Who?, The Shipper, Tonhon Chonlatee, I'm Tee Me Too, A Boss and a Babe, UMG, Cause You're My Boy, He's Coming to Me, 1000 Years Old, Ghost Host Ghost House, Low Season, Full House. Possibly Matalada, 55:15, Bad Buddy, The Warp Effect and Duean in FUTS. I hope this list will grow and am always looking for suggestions.

Attempting to find words to talk about Thai comedy and how to usefully distinguish it from western comedies.
Someone on Letterboxd (review for May Who?) described Thai humour as "so goofy it's pure" and that's the best I've come across. Goofy, playful, joyous, exuberant, fun, accepting, unabashed, at least slightly mad, chaotic, madcap, self aware but not self-conscious, with lightness and freedom. Often intelligent writing and clever creativity hidden under seeming nonsense. Nonsense plot lines which actually work because everything is edge of your seat exaggeration anyway, except for the emotions which can be quietly very real. Sometimes exceptionally well-written and well-crafted. Other times it whole-heartedly dives into and embraces wonky production values and plot lines. Both a refusal to take itself seriously and often very serious bits woven in, like the number which include trauma or grief narratives.

And always, always, full of warmth, kindness, generosity, acceptance and love.

Can you tell I adore this way of doing things?


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This is just something I wrote as a reply to someone's question on MDL. Don't read it if you haven't seen Century of Love as there are significant spoilers. Enough I'm going to cut AND hide it :) Parking a copy here because it will get lost on MDL soon enough and I won't remember it next week.


CAUTION - SPOILERS AHEAD )
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I started a small comm here to talk about Thai things. It's really just Thai television at this point as I don't know enough to feel confident writing about more and there isn't much interest from the other members anyway. You can't find it from my journal without a link so here it is. Though my journal gets even less attention than the comm but may as well :) I'm really selling it, aren't I?

I'd love for others to join us.

(Edit: per the responses of the community, the comm is a monthly chat thread and anything else they wish to post. This is how it works best.)

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Realised part of what annoys me about one of the main leads in Fish Upon the Sky....

Putting the character's romance arc into chronological order, rather than back story we find out late, it amounts to something like

you did something nice for me once so now I'm going to chase you until you love me back...

Which feels a hell of a lot like the way women are forced to manage some men's emotions and negotiate safe passage through the situations created by said men's inability to manage their own. Except it's Jittirain BL, so the happy ending is a male lead red-flagging in episode 11 and they get/stay together because that's what the genre demands.

I know it's a trope. When a healthy relationship grows out of it, it can make sense for why one character initially notices the other and then notices more things they like about them. Sometimes it's lazy characterisation. Sometimes it's lazy characterisation which combines with other lazy characterisations to create a very unhealthy situation.

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My fourth time through all of Moonlight Chicken, thanks to a new online friend who loves it in the same ways I do, and it's back to its rightful place on the top of my favourites. Knowing it so well, I had spare bandwidth to understand some of the how's of its magic as well as the why's. The phrase I've been using is "cradling pain".

In the third episode, Li Ming goes off on his own, fed up with school, his nagging uncle, and everything else. He ends up by the water. The scene isn't rushed, it gives the actor, the character and us time to be with his frustration, worries and pain. It's there, it feels so very real, and it's surrounded by the calm, gentle beauty of the night and the water and held by the calm, gentle beauty of the music. His pain, and ours, cradled by all of this.

The fourth episode has other moments of pain. There's an argument, a revelation, a montage of all the characters with their worries. And it's framed by a calm, gentle, beautiful, hopeful song, a montage of the characters' happiness in their closest relationships and a gentle voice speaking wise, gentle words. It's surrounded by love, cradling the pain.

Those are the clearest examples of this. And now I understand better how this exceptional series opens me up to so many of my griefs. They're in the stories, the moments of identification and lived understanding of what the characters are going through. I've always known the characters' support for each other in this found family carried over to help me grieve. I didn't know until now how deeply the director's choices supported that.

Much respect and appreciation for P'Aof, all of the actors, and this quiet masterpiece of emotion.


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there always comes a time when 's interconnected stories of loss and healing, of letting go and moving on, and the gentle, quiet beauty in which the music, acting and cinematography cradle pain, work their magic on me and I am so ready to move on... and once again I find myself up against the limitations of my health and my inability to find any way to do so within our transactional what can you do for me society

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Just finished The Shipper (GMMTV, on their youtube channel of course) and the OST won't leave my head. It's so full of twists and turns I'm not sure how to squee about it or even recommend it without giving things away. It's goofy and intelligent, silly, over the top, ridiculous, oh my god you're not doing THAT, and heartwarming. Relevant in its messaging. EVERY emotion is magnified, sometimes through outlandishness, often through changes in the arrangement of the music, always through the acting.

The acting is pitch perfect. All of the cast gave exactly what they needed to in each moment, no more, no less. This was an early one for many of them as well, how can they be THAT good THAT young? (And Jennie. OMG. She was brilliant. Must find more outrageousness from her.) Credit to the director/screenwriter and whoever made the casting decisions for bringing this out of them. And for negotiating an over the top complicated plot that turns itself completely around every episode.

More about the acting, so some possible spoilers. If you're going to watch it, come back to this after. )

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